I put speed on both but bronya has higher speed than my seele(My seele speed is at 134 and my bronya is at 145). 6~. She needs a lot of speed and rotation tuning to make her work, and is terrible for auto battle. Hell, I made a series of handy visual. I always Bronya Ult after Blade has been forwarded + his skill used to get 1 extra buff turn from her Ult. Fire Power Team Composition For Seele. which is better? the 145 speed allows me to go 134 bronya due to speed tuning but first doesnt. Bronya would be nice for hypervarry Kafka, but testing with asta and tingyun shows double dot does 2. POV: It's been 2 weeks since Blade's release and you've been grinding non-stop to build this badboy up. Yukong was a seasoned pilot and a deadshot. You can opt for slower Bronya but make sure Bronya is slower than Jingliu (135 v 134) so Speed boots are used. SpeedTech Tuning, Brookfield, Wisconsin. The game determines turn order based on “Action Value” (AV), a stat which can be viewed on the left side of the combat screen. Complete-Ad4357. Legend999991 • 2 mo. The speed breakpoints in Honkai Star Rail are 121, 134, 143, 161 and 172. 弱点击破 : 单攻 : 90. That is why it is the magical number, and not the ideal number. 5 and jingliu is technically -0. Memory of Chaos Progress and Discussion Thread 3. and bronya should be a few spd points slower. At the moment, Bronya + Silver Wolf + Yukong are probably the best trio for damage per screenshot, whether or not you are adding a vulnerability. There are two types of Bronya - the fast and the slow. Banner of Command. 5 and jingliu is technically -0. After using Bronya's Technique, in the next battle, all allies' ATK increases by 15 % for 2 turn (s). 3+11=135. Bronya E1 vs her 5* lightcone. Especially with the advance effect on her basic attacks so you will be able to use her skill at a good time fairly often. 2. Bronya is running 134 Spd. This Bronya guide explains her traces and abilities, best relic and light cone builds, eidolons, and team synergies. What speed tuning are you running? You only need 129 to attack twice during the first round thanks to her 10% spd boost from her 2nd turn. When it comes to supports for Blade, people normally talk about Bronya instead of Silver Wolf. Logging in only takes a few seconds. Anyhow, slow Bronya should be 1 SPD behind Jingliu, fast Bronya should be around 160. 7. 8). I was wondering how action advance works with speed tuning. This effect can stack up to six times. Huohuo can easilly cleanse all DoT, but hard CC that really hurts JY cannot be cleansed right away, you need Huohuo's turn or the 50% health emergency heal to cleanse it. 4* Spd boots 16 Speed 5* Spd boots 25 Speed. A subreddit dedicated to Bronya from Honkai Impact 3rd / Honkai StarRail. He requires speed tuning not just alone, but also tuning ting correctly. Feel free to discuss about Bronya! Bronya Mains || Belobog HSR Discord Server run by. For instance trying to run SW with Bronya/Seele is challenging if Bronya ends up faster than SW as she'll. The first is to have DHIL @ 135 and Bronya @ 134 and basic on DHIL's first turn into Bronya push and Fulgrant Leap and the second is to have a slow DHIL with as fast as possible Bronya, though I don't know the thresholds for. In fact, As long as Bronya's Speed > 134, and your dps is even faster, it will work. If you want the maximum amount of damage, 2 buffers + 1 debuffer (or 2 debuffers + 1 buffer) are likely to make you do bigger numbers. Which means that the first cycle has a base pace of 67 speed (since the enemy was attacked by us engaging the MoC) and further cycles are base pace of 100 speed. That's valid. Saying Bronya is just "great" is a gigantic understatement. Member. r/JingLiu • Some notes about Jingliu (as seen from Honey Hunter World). These are the breakpoints specifically for getting 2 turns every cycle for the first 7 cycles. ago. Seele (Main DPS), Bronya (Support), Asta (Support), Bailu (Healer) This team maximises Seele’s damage output, by using Bronya to buff her allies and manipulate the turn order. Operation Sports. You only need 129 to attack twice during the first round thanks to her 10% spd boost from her 2nd turn. Speed tuning gets complicated with Yukong in many teams. And the point at which JingLiu would be so fast that the 30% SPD buff is making the Action Advance useless, that's around the 230 speed area. With Blade and Bronya you can speed tune them to so Blade is only 1 or 2 points faster and will go just before Bronya every time their turns cycle. 5. This poll is now closed. Her kit revolves around Advancing. Honkai Star Rail’s Seele is a high-impact, burst-based DPS, that deals heaps of damage to a single target over a short period of time. XliiTheDragon. I am aware. you want the 134 breakpoint on both of them, and you want seele to be 2 speed higher than bronya. ago. Eagle of the Twilight Line (4) – +10% Wind Damage, wearer’s next action is advanced forward by 25% after their Ultimate. And of course speed boots. in my experience going for slow blade and fast bronya only works if you have an incredibly fast bronya (160+ spd, i tried 99 spd blade with 145 spd bronya and it felt like shit). ago. Zeta_Crossfire • 1 day ago. The problem is I lost 50/50 in Topaz banner but got e2 Bronya. Thoughts? 17 posts, 11/16 8:12AM. How much faster does my Jingliu need to be than my Slow Bronya to stop 4p Hacker from breaking their speed tuning? comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment. I can actually get speed to 111. Mr. I haven’t finished leveling Bronya’s action advance talent because I was scared it might throw off speed tuning. No rocket science needed. yukong’s e6 would be helpful since then u can. Skill Lv. plsdontstalkmeee. GameFAQs Q&A. The best Bailu build is: Light Cone – Time Waits for No One. Yukong’s kit seems like it may take some speed-tuning if not babysitting, it’s just more restrictive (not to mention being SP hungry). The time taken for your first rotation is Bronya's speed which is capped to be less than your DPS's speed, so let's say 133; 10000/133 = 75 AV. 5 reasons why Bronya is a must-have Harmony character in Honkai Star Rail. That being said for speed tuned I used my last enhanced attack to kill, where as with hyperspeed Bronya I managed to clear while still having 2 enhanced skill. I can't see how any amount of speed tuning will accommodate that. E2 speed tuning? Just pulled her second eidolon but haven't activated yet. 25points per turn, bronya -0. Who should I add to make Team #2?Bronya is either the best or second-best Harmony support for every DPS character in the game, and she gets even better with eidolons and signature weapon. Asta. Kafka Performance Tuning Summary. Even if you keep her talent at lvl 1, do it mess up ur tuning if you do a basic? And if so, how much faster should ur dps be so 1 basic attack from bronya wont mess it up Recently gained Bronya's E2 and activated it without considering how it would affect speed tuning. which is better for skill point? 7 posts, 10/29 9:02AM. Energy regeneration and speed are the two other. 1: have Blade be 1-3 speed faster than Bronya. Does anyone know how much speed it takes to reach 3 turns per cycle? You need 200 something speed maybe try dance dance dance if you have a high refine or use the new speed set and dance dance dance combined that should most definitely net a 174 bronya to have 3 actions. Feels to me like you want Bronya to be powercrept more than anything. Bronya naturally brings with her conversations about SPD tuning, and it all spirals from there. Broken Keel. This way your action turns would be like this: Bronya AA > teams turn > QQ skill + AA > Bronya Skill > QQ multi skill and. Second team. 134 speed is enough to give you two turns on the first cycle. Memory of Chaos Progress and Discussion Thread 3. 75 of Bronya action value (needs to have 1. • 5 mo. . E2 Bronya speed tuning. The displayed AV is how much time it will take them to finish the current lap at their current speed. If we calculate it, the average SP consumption is only 5 SP per 3 rounds. With these 2 things you should be rocking just fine. E2 - Quick March. Based on experience, you don't actually need to build speed on your dps if you're opting for hyperspeed bronya. even then i dunno if it will do more damage since having bronya right. 2. My recommendation is to have Bronya be slightly slower than your other team members so they can apply their buffs or debuffs or generate SP before Bronya passes her turn. Optimize the number of Partitions using this simple equation. She's S+ tier support by anyone who has a clue for a reason, on every tier list. I can actually get speed to 111. 185. The character with more speed starts earlier. 99. The downside is that he would consume twice as much SP, but considering this is a Blade hypercarry. So, let's say the Seele team has a cracked Bronya with 160 speed (achievable with ~3 speed rolls per non-boots piece, plus speed boots, plus 6 speed from set bonus). Asta. E2 Bronya at 139 spd. Bronya does perform just fine with mediocre relics, to be honest. • 3 mo. Yes, this is a very high number. My Bronya has higher speed too because of boots (Seele use atk boots)but after seele use her skill in turn 1 she is going first like it should be. Best Free-to-Play Light Cone for Bronya in Honkai Star Rail. But its hard to achieve and maintain due to the nature of speed tuning, i. The way it goes is that Blade would have, say, 136 speed and Bronya 134. This is good if you don't want to speed tune (like me because. speed tuning is nice for high end strats, but the simple factor of taking more turns. Gepard's is nice but not as gamechanging as Bronya's. Versions per 5, 10 and 15 cycles with action values in cells. Pros of first case: Higher JL damage, about 12%-ish SP positive as Bronya alternates between Basic and Skill Doesn't matter if JL is CC-ed. However, this can spiral out of control in terms of SP, Speed tuning, and turn order. 😢 Don't make my mistake, buy Bronya's LC. Bronya's lightcone is extremely good and useable on pretty much every Harmony character, so even if you happen to get a duplicate in the future (or a better LC gets released), you will still be in good hands. HoR - SS0 1437 Att (All Att Affix)SS - SS0 1219 Att (1 SP Reg Affix)JK - SS0 1287 Att (2 line SP Reg Affix and 2 line Att Affix)Notes to consider: 1. Speed Boots are quite good on Jing Yuan, but do not amount for more than 7% in favor of SPD over ATK in the best case scenario for SPD (cases such as fighting 3 enemies with +50% ATK from buffs and substats). Fletcher. Using HP boots on Blade with Bronya may not be the best option. Far_Environment_589 18 days ago. stellaristical • 3 mo. And I’m talking about including buffs and such… my only speed builds are Pela (152), Bronya (152), Ting (159). Hop aboard the Astral Express and experience the galaxy's infinite wonders on this journey. 17. Yea some speed rolls, I was thinking maybe even more speed will help blade get more turns but idk if it’s worth. plsdontstalkmeee. If you want to pair him with Bronya, JY is better off with some speed at least more than Bronya so he can go before her then he can get another turn for 7 stacks consistently compare to him being slower he will only get 5 stacks. It means that even if you manage to charge the ultimate in 3 turns, you benefit from the bonus only once every 6 turns. Go for Speed boots, because if you do a tiny bit of speed tuning and get Blade to have a bit more speed than Bronya, you will be able to double the number of Blade's turns. 5. Ofc Speed shoes change things: Bronya 99 Speed Seele 115 Speed. Hi, As a follow up of the [Jingliu V2 Pre-Release Guide]. A character with twice the Speed of another character will take twice as many turns. XeroShyft • 2 hr. She is literally the best buffer in. Blade speed tuning is definitely the biggest problem. 29 bites (round up to 64), while Hook will take 107 bites. Waifu tier list, up to v. She is one of the strongest buffers, but requires speed tuning to capitalize on. Wind set is better cause with enough Speed you can: Attack bronya, skill bronya before dps, (wait for dps turn) bronya ult, dps skill, bronya skill, dps skill. Test 2. Yea some speed rolls, I was thinking maybe even more speed will help blade get more turns but idk if it’s worth. Start w. With the goal of optimisation in mind, the general consensus is that Slow bronya is better for drawn out battles/especially in moc, so I would like to focus mainly on Slow bronya for this post. Unsure if I should pull for Seele's LC. Idk if normal bronya hp boots speed will work on moc, but overworld play whatever yk. Select the target of calculation to view leveling materials. I wouldnt lower your Blade Speed for now. 10000/speed = Action value (this action value determines how much turns you get per cycle) so one cycle is 150 AV. Sprightly Vonwacq (2) – +5% Energy Regeneration Rate, the wearer's action is Advanced Forward by 40% at the start of battle if their Speed is 120 or higher. Chorus. Speed: Lynx > Bronya > YK > 130 > DaniIL (Attack boot) LC: Quid pro quo on Lynx, S1 on Bronya, Planetary on YK. C6 Yukong elevates him so much, speed tuning his team is a pain in the ass, lastly the sp management and buffs rotation is crucial since the fights aren't always the same. 15. As a Nihility hero, Kafka can only employ Nihility Light Cones. Maybe that is also why people just build fast Bronya so she works with anyone without speed tuning. She is OP, and perhaps the best standard 5 star right now in Honkai: Star Rail. When the wearer inflicts weakness break on an enemy, regenerates 3 Energy. And the point at which JingLiu would be so fast that the 30% SPD buff is making the Action Advance useless, that's around the 230 speed area. There are so many times that its effect saved my team from being demolished or from the turn countdown in MOC, where Bronya was able to push through the enemy's heavy attack. I currently run that team as slow-Blade being slingshotted by Bronya - assuming Bronya should now be buffing Jingliu instead (with speed tuning), should Blade be re-farmed up to 134 speed to carry himself? edit: speed tuning is Luocha - 140, Jingliu - 139, Bronya - 138, Blade - slow ass mf I don't think jingliu speed tuning, with c2 bronya is possible. This poll is now closed. If E6 Yukong maybe not even speed tuning needed Then bronya is in between but not worse at all Probably rebuffing with silver is better though Hey, this video discusses Bronya's best Build. If you aren't speed tuned (like my team is for seele) yeah its decent, but worse than if i was. So if your girl have 125 you should make blade 126+, if you can't then make broyna slower. Relics and Ornament. Team compositions. The downside is that he would consume twice as much SP, but considering this is a Blade hypercarry. The game fast-forwards time until someone completes a lap (takes their turn). Leviathan – A Water Eidolon that can increase Bronya’s Critical DMG by up to 32%. Logging in only takes a few seconds. Typically, ppl are always pushing for supports such as bronya to ideally have a minimum of 134 speed (the breakpoint for having a good no. Since Yukong's support buffs doesn't scale with any of her stats, we can lean more towards dealing damage since she. Needs tuning and working around it if you don't have the unconditional Bronya buff, but it works. This setup is not worth grinding for IMO. HonkaiStarRail. Other than Supporting her team, Bronya also buffs herself to perform better as a Harmony character in Honkai: Star Rail. Usually, DPS - 120+, Clara - base speed, Everyone else - 134+. CryptoFor Bronya, the best Eidolons are the following: Pixie – A Healing Eidolon that can heal Bronya and her allies. If E6 Yukong maybe not even speed tuning needed Then bronya is in between but not worse at all Probably rebuffing with silver is better thoughHey, this video discusses Bronya's best Build. I do have both Yanqing and Herta, though, so the wind/ice domain is very efficient. You already have Bronya for your Seele team. r/BladeMains. So if your girl have 125 you should make blade 126+, if you can't then make broyna slower. K3y87 6 months ago #12. Alternatively, a 4-piece Eagle of Twilight Line (increases Wind DMG by 10% and Action Forwards character by 25%. She does have her problems and. save. Jingliu + Bronya speed tuning. It also has an in-depth discussion of how to play and build. 276. Each attack will do less damage, but he would also do twice as many basic attacks if tuned properly. Ideally you want Bronya to be 1 speed slower than Blade while also reaching the 134 mark. 2-piece Musketeer of Wild Wheat (ATK increases by 12%) and 2-piece Messenger Traversing Hackerspace (increases SPD by 6%)—by running this, you can lessen the focus on SPD substats as this speed buff will not ruin your speed tuning. She also requires too many skill points to properly have 100% uptime on her buffs. 2 posts, 10/27 7:09PM. Bronya needs at least 134 speed—that’s the minimum. Equipping two pieces of the Musketeer of Wild Wheat Relic will grant Tingyun an exceptional buff to. The game determines turn order based on “Action Value” (AV), a stat which can be viewed on the left side of the combat screen. You want Bronya to have very high speed, and her basic attack gives her action forward from trace giving her an insane amount of turns and ult up time. 4. I think some characters have a lot more "damage bonus" buffs than in Genshin (at level 10, Seele's talent gives 80% damage bonus, and Bronya's skill gives another 66%, and this is additive with Quantum damage bonus) and we have one less Bennett (I think right now the 1000+ flat ATK that Bennett gives is not. I have been putting off activating E2 on Bronya because I’ve heard it forces very strict speed tuning, is activating it more of a detriment than an improvement? That'd depend on whether you're already relying on some strict speed tuning for your current use cases. Add a Comment. teamwise I am going to add her to Blade + Luocha + Bronya. 1 extra speed which when added to his base speed is 128. 0 comments. I finally managed to achieve 161 Speed on Bronya and was wondering if its better to use that over Speed Tuning Blade just after Bronya. I am like, the only person who enjoys SPD TC. If you haven't found the need to do so (probably because the DPS. Honestly, I've been preferring Tingyun despite having Bronya myself. Build 1: Blade is FASTER than Bronya. 25points per turn, bronya -0. Bronya and seele is just the sweetest combo in the game. . Messenger Traversing Hackerspace. Seele, the rarity 5-Star Banner character in Honkai: Star Rail, fills the role on a player's team as the primary. For Bronya's Character Ascension material, you'll need to farm the Shape of Gust Stagnant Shadow challenge. It would also be interesting if at super high (maybe unrealistic) investment of 161+ speed across the team (that's the 4 turns per cycle break right?) if Asta still outperforms another support. +2, up to a maximum of Lv. So Blade effectively takes 2 turns. DPS + Bronya and you can go even on Skill Points. If you want 2 characters to take turns together they should have similar Speed. = (+ %) + Action Value is calculated for each character. So right now my JL is speed tuned. The best Light Cone for Kafka’s build in. As for the 4 piece set, it goes something like this: Blade -> Bronya Skill and full energy -> Bronya ult gives Bronya and Blade 1 turn speed buff -> Blade's turn is advanced and attacks -> Blade's speed buff is expired while Bronya still has speed buff, meaning she's faster than Blade. She'll need 65 Storm Eyes to fully ascend. • 18 days ago. /edit: the guy above me is saying the exact same thing than me but he got 150+ likes and I got -17 downvotes. Legend999991 • 2 mo. Bronya's Build, Eidolon Strength, Best Stats, and Skill Recommendation. Draco. 135 speed Blade + 134 speed Bronya. Musketeer of Wild Wheat. Based on SPD stats, her playstyle changes. You don't even need it to accomplish what I'm insinuating. Ratio's ATK. The solution is to wait a bit so that Bronya ults not during “Bronya’s end of turn” but “Buffed ally’s start of turn” (Yes, there is a difference). Since heading up the commission, she's been buried under mountains of paperwork. You only need 110 to outspeed your Bronya after her boost and Blade's turns will be synced to hers any ways, more speed doesn't really help. Jingliu + Bronya speed tuning. subscribers . I have been running Bronya calcs. A character with twice the Speed of another character will take twice as many turns. Perfectly speed tuning Bronya is a massive pain since her basics advance her by a bit which will eventually desync the turn order you tried to setup. You physically do not have the SP required to do a x3 Enhanced Basic into Bronya Skill into x3 Enhanced Basic, since that line would. I wouldnt lower your Blade Speed for now. So I know the ideal speed tuning for Blade Bronya is 135 and 134 respectively so Blade moves immediately after Bronya and both have the 133+…It's because some characters don't use their ultimate on and ally. Bronya and Kafka. 67%. JordanIII • E2 speed tuning?If you build bronta to have 150-160 speed (REALLY WANT 160+ speed) then it doesn't matter if Blade is slower than her. • 4 mo. Increases Movement Speed. She is very inconsistent and gets her buff wasted on non dps characters. Most supports are more straightforward. Jing Yuan's speed analysis has come to sort of a head here. The only "cure" is to make Bronya faster actually, since if she becomes even slower Bronya will get 1 turn while Seele gets 3. Bronya is better in terms of utility, but they both have different uses in damage buffing. Nodomi • 1 day ago. When Bronya’s speed is 120 or more, her allies receive an attack increase of eight percent. When using Skill, there is a 50% fixed chance of regenerating 1 Skill Point. Just make sure your dps has more speed than Bronya. you make Bronya 1 Speed slower than Imbibitor Lunae, so she goes right after him and boost him with her Skill. With her A2 Trace, Bronya adds 100% Crit Rate to her Basic ATK, which is. 0. 34 of her speed or 1. This is a simple version to show you at which cycles you get a double turn based on your speed. She is very inconsistent and gets her buff wasted on non dps characters. Pela, on the other hand, has already been featured as a rate up on two banners, so most people already have her. The combo will be 3 rotations: First round Blade's Skill and BA, Bronya's Skill, and Blade's BA again. +2, up to a maximum of Lv. So its entirely dependent on if you have already planned/built around speed tuning your yukong team. 2 posts, 10/27 7:09PM. 5 since she spends 2 every 5 turns but she does 5 turns every 4 turns. The fiendfire mechanics absolutely suck. U can surely use bronya, 100 speed Dan Heng or whatever u want, but that is sub optimal and having more turns results in more damagein earlt stages and long run eather for the number of turns. You can acquire more speed by. This effect can only trigger once every three turns. I see, can I ask if there is a huge difference in speed between your Bronya and Seele without using her. There's also the sp neutral basic-skill rotation for Bronya at 160-164 speed and level 10 talent but I'm not sure how viable it is since I've never tried it. The time taken for the actual second. in her speed tuning. However, with Advance Forward, let's say the slower character is advanced forward by. Third pick Bailu. The trick is to basic attack first so bronya can be ahead of LL and give JY another turn. which is better for skill point? 8 posts, 10/30 12:23AM. A character with twice the Speed of another character will take twice as. Eidolons – Level 2: Pot of Slumbering Dragon. 22. . The debate between Speed or ATK boots can be summarized into these key points. In my case Jingliu has 107 speed and my Bronya has 136 speed. The costs are insane even if you had luocha As u/Lichii said blade has -0. Bronya skill "costs" 2 SP so generating more is good. Yeah exactly, plus more skill points and more breaks from bronya and more bronya ultimates. raindancethunder. The magical number for Bronya's SPD is 160. of extra. 64 bites/ticks later, Bronya is ready to take her 2nd turn, while Hook still has 107 - 64 = 43 bites to go. I finally managed to get the 135/134 duo speed tuning down too, though my relics substats are trash compared to yours. there is a youtube video by “sweetily” that i would recommend you to watch, just look for “blade and bronya”. Brogni (currently Duchess 4:3, but want to switch her up) I see 2 main options: He's fastest, puts up his shield/block debuff before aoe2 and does his debuff. You may put all three of them in a same team, but Jingyuan’s speed (both him and LL) is slow and Tingyun is quite low in HP. It's possible to hold up to 3 Squama Sacrosancta, which can be used to. 9K subscribers in the Bronya community. Star Rail, a strategy turn-based RPG from the Honkai series by HoYoverse. Bronya is a 5-star Wind character who follows the Harmony path, a path dedicated to buffing allies. Bronya has such an amazing kit in Honkai: Star Rail that she can succeed as a unit even without amazing Light Cones and Relics. Meshing Cogs. Next, increase the speed of Bronya 99+25 (speed feet) =124Other than Supporting her team, Bronya also buffs herself to perform better as a Harmony character in Honkai: Star Rail. Bronya’s E2. Bronya at 158 speed will take 63. A week later I lost the 50/50 to Bronya. Easy ultimate with BBBS or BSS rotation. Discussion. 【智者的短见. So my QQ is able to outspeed Bronya despite having 100 spd naturally. As such, we recommend building Seele with attack, speed, crit rate, crit damage, and quantum. ago. He will always go right before her if you avoid using her basic attack and she will effectively double the number of turns he takes. Bronya is always “2 spd” slower - when looking on the left side. 0. I believe im able to get 10 stack everytime if not for speed debuffs and some enemies. Yes. A character with 50 speed would take 2 turns to get there, while a character with 20 speed would take 5 turns. I tested bronya at 161 speed and 174 in moc, both give 2 turns per cycle. This Bronya guide explains her traces a. Jingliu + Bronya speed tuning. JordanIII • E2 speed tuning?The best Relics for Bronya are: Relic. Hackerspace helps with speed tuning since the ult for eagle moves her action forward. comment sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment. At SpeedTech Tuning, we tune your ride on our in-house. Bronya naturally brings with her conversations about SPD tuning, and it all spirals from there. Far_Environment_589 18 days ago. The magical number for Bronya's SPD is 160. Which character do you think would make the best girlfriend or boyfriend? 22 posts, 11/22 9:43AM.